Transitions and Legacies.
Reflective and Prospective. In this episode, we take a moment to reflect on the outgoing 18th Dynasty (and its last scion, Horemheb). Then, we consider some of the major themes that will appear in Dynasty 19, and the continuities between the two eras. Finally, we reflect on the 10th Anniversary of The History of Egypt Podcast!
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Thank you for going into discussion about the dividing line. I get that, no matter how you slice it, it’s an arbitrary distinction, but, through the last couple episodes, I was beginning to wonder if Horemheb fit better as the founder of the 19th Dynasty – especially if he took power through either a coup or mini-Civil War with Ay’s successor as theorized. It also seems like the next Pharaohs were happy to trace their lineage to him by papering over the entire Amarna period except him. Like you said, it’s arbitrary either way but it’s at least more complicated than I would have assumed before listening to your podcasts about his reign.
I also vote yes on an exploration of the changes in language if you find someone willing to help out. Keep up the good work either way.
I’m going to take you up on that offer and comment here: A discussion of the Egyptian language and its changes with a scholar of the language would be fascinating! (Of course, I also listen to the History of English podcast so I would say that, wouldn’t I?)
I am glad that you decided to keep a slower pace.
A slower pace keeps it possible to show more details and depth of the history:
Not everyone has the time and access to read more books and essays to get and to filter out these details and depth. And also, the details of this history is not available in everyone’s mother tongue language which makes reading and understanding more immersive and easier.
Those who want to have a quicker pace can make their own decision to read books about general egyptian history or watch documentaries to get whatever information they want.
But your podcast with a slower pace and the way you reveal the history is irreplacable.
Discussions on the Egyptian language would be very welcome! The interviews you’ve had on this podcast are fantastic because of the topic and just because of how enthusiastic you and the interviewees are about the subject matter.
I would be very interested in your proposed episode on the transition from Middle Egyptian to Late Egyptian, as I am most interested in hieroglyphs and the linguistic aspects of the Egyptian language (phonology, morphology, syntax, etc.).
Hello,
Thank you for the introduction on the 19th dynasty.
Yes, I would be interested in an interview on the changes in the language that came with the onset of this dynasty, esp. the vocabulary and morphology.
Best,
Ivonna